Zobrazení zdroje stránky Diskuse k šabloně:Infobox

{{Permanently protected}}
{{talkheader}}
{{WikiProject banner shell|
{{WikiProject Infoboxes}}
}}
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|archiveheader = {{talkarchivenav}}
|maxarchivesize = 75K
|counter = 20
|minthreadsleft = 6
|algo = old(90d)
|archive = Template talk:Infobox/Archive %(counter)d
}}
{{Lua sidebar}}

== Notelist inside infobox ==

There is a request at [[Template talk:Infobox sports season]] to implement [[Help:explanatory notes|explanatory notes]] inside the infobox, to avoid the notes getting confused with other groups of notes lower down the article. Apparently this has already been done at [[Template:Infobox college basketball team]]. I'm posting here in case anyone has an opinion about this, or whether this could more efficiently be coded at the meta module instead. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:So just to be clear there are infoboxs out there that have the footnotes at the end of the info box making the box longer with notes that are in very small text? Why would we clutter the lead in this way? I think I have seen this before..... this is something that pop culture articles do? <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 22:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
::I have not noticed these infoboxes previously. I think small text is a bad idea because infoboxes are already at a smaller size. The proposal at Infobox sports season is a collapsed box with the notes in &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 22:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Its odd we have groups of article's so different than others and want to hide things all the time making things unaccessible. Like [[Template:Toronto Raptors]] .... why are we hiding all the links in the header? <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 22:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
::::It's against [[MOS:COLOUR]] which says {{tq|Links should be clearly identifiable as links for readers.}} For some time now, I have been suggesting that ''if'' navboxes need colours that are not the default, the approach taken by the religious people has its merits. See for example [[Tricia Hillas#References|the navboxes at Tricia Hillas]]. Only the topmost bar is styled, to have: background white; unlinked text black; linked text default; top and bottom borders coloured. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 08:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::Why are we talking about colour? It is not relevant to what is being discussed here &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::Moxy asked "why are we hiding all the links in the header?" To me they're hidden by being the same colour as the unlined text. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::::.... Perhaps I better be more clear here. Why is it that sports projects go out of their way to hide links and information in most of their templates..... for example colored links and of hiding the sources/notes in an info box. <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 22:04, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:::To the original question: examples please, of where these notes are present within the infobox. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 08:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
::::There are some examples in the [[Template:Infobox sports season/testcases|/testcases]] &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
FWIW, I fixed the [[MOS:SMALLFONT]] accessibility problem at {{tl|Infobox college basketball team}} that was caused by embedding a {{tl|notelist}} inside an infobox. That sort of fix would be needed for any other infobox that included the same embedding. You can see notes in an infobox at [[LIU Sharks men's basketball]]. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 20:09, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{re|Jonesey95}} I added your solution to the accessibility problem to [[Help:Footnotes#Issues]]. Inspired by a comment from [[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]], I looked at several infoboxes that allow for the display of footnotes. They generally do so by creating a series of parameters, which limits the number of footnotes available (not necessarily a bad thing). I did not find any others that call {{tlx|notelist}}, which seems far more simple to me. Hopefully, if anyone else decides to implement this, they will see the note I left on the help page. I'm glad MSGJ reached out this talk page for advice. Thanks for your help. [[User:Taxman1913|Taxman1913]] ([[User talk:Taxman1913|talk]]) 19:02, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

== Overridden dark mode background is almost but not identical to default ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Infobox/styles.css&oldid=1295905060#L-33--L-50 These lines] override some backgrounds in dark mode to <code>#1f1f23</code>. This is very close to the default infobox background of <code>--background-color-interactive-subtle</code> (<code>#202122</code>), but neither exactly the same nor different enough to distinguish these elements from the rest of the infobox. Is this intentional? [[User:EvenTwist41|EvenTwist41]] ([[User talk:EvenTwist41|talk]]) 01:21, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

== Collapsing Infoboxes? ==

I know if this isn't the perfect place to be discussing transclusion, but I've noticed a couple of timeline templates using the infobox template, that have the ability to collapse. Like these:

[[Template:Paramount Skydance evolution]]

[[Template:WildBrain evolution]]

I'm struggling to incorporate this on a MediaWiki wiki I'm creating. ([https://altcyclopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Paramount_evolution Template:Paramount evolution - Altcyclopedia]) Any idea how to do it? - [[User:BiggieSMLZ|BiggieSMLZ]] ([[User talk:BiggieSMLZ|talk]]) 21:30, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

:The classes in use in those templates are <code>collapsible</code> and its friend. These classes are aliased locally to <code>mw-collapsible</code> and its friend, which is the [[:mw:Manual:Collapsible elements|standard name]]. Try those names instead. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 04:52, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
::I inserted <code>mw-collapsible</code> in place of <code>collapsed</code> on my template ([https://altcyclopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Paramount_evolution?action=edit) , but it still had no effect. [[User:BiggieSMLZ|BiggieSMLZ]] ([[User talk:BiggieSMLZ|talk]]) 09:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

== Patch: make {{para|decat|yes}} prevent categorization from [[Module:Infobox]] under [[:Category:Pages using infobox templates with ignored data cells]] too ==

{{edit template-protected|answered=yes}}

If you change line #167 in [[Module:Infobox]] from
<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">
if rowArgs.data then
</syntaxhighlight>

to

<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">
if rowArgs.data and (args.decat ~= 'yes') then
</syntaxhighlight>

then {{para|decat|yes}} will also prevent categorizing because of ignored data cells.

I'd also suggest changing the module to use [[Module:Yesno]] since {{para|decat|Yes}} doesn't work as intended, for example, as I discovered before adding the right parameter to the first example under [[Template:Infobox/doc#Examples]] in my local copy of the doc. [[User:Tactica|Tactica]] ([[User talk:Tactica|talk]]) 19:50, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
: {{Done}} [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 23:40, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

== Can the blank rows on child infoboxes be fixed? ==

(This discussion started at [[Template talk:Infobox social media personality#Layout]] when a user reported an infobox with two blank rows. I'm copying over my text from there.)

The blank rows are related to embedding using {{para|child|yes}}. Almost all of the [[Template:Infobox social media personality/testcases|testcases]] have a blank line or two, on both desktop and mobile, with this markup:

<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" style="overflow: auto"><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-full-data"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1316064257"></td></tr></syntaxhighlight>

One blank line is always created at the beginning of this wrapper template (in-between {{tl|Infobox person}}'s rows and the custom rows for this infobox), and a second is created when embedding this template into another. Both are direct results of {{para|child|yes}}, which creates a blank row where {{para|title}} would be listed. It simply does not suppress this row if the title is left blank. The blank row does NOT occur if you embed using {{para|subbox|yes}} instead.
This issue is actually already mentioned at [[Template:Infobox#Embedding]]. A workaround/solution is listed but it would have to be applied everywhere that {{para|child|yes}} is used. This is something that should be fixed directly at [[Module:Infobox]] instead.
<hr>
Can this possibly be fixed by someone familiar with how this module functions? I've searched through the talk page archives and it seems like this [[Template_talk:Infobox/Archive_18#Fix_for_empty_cells_with_child_boxes|issue may have been fixed in the past.]] [[User:Prefall|<span style="color: #990000">Pre</span>]]'''[[User talk:Prefall|<span style="color: #990000">fall</span>]]''' 21:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

:The lack of suppression for this row is not shocking. It has to do with how infobox just magically sucks up child infoboxes into its structure. (That hack may somewhen go away, but not anytime soon.)
:@[[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]], if you're around, since you solved some of this the last go around. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 23:53, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
:: [[User:Izno|Izno]], it's been sometime since I looked at this code.  my guess right now is that if we change the code block starting near line 52 to move the categories and templatestyles outside of the cells and to the top of the output this could fix the problem.  I will try to find some time to look at it, but I need to brush up on my string processing commands first. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 17:05, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Frietjes}} I know you have a ton of other things you are working on, but I just want to voice that I would '''love''' to see this fixed... It is causing an issue with basically anything that uses {{para|module}} via [[Module:Template wrapper]]. For example all the Infoboxes in {{clc|Category:Templates calling Infobox sportsperson}} or {{clc|Category:Templates calling Infobox person}} have this issue. If I can be helpful in anyway, please ping me! '''[[User:Zackmann08|<span style="color:#00ced1">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94">mann</span>]]''' (<sup>[[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|<span style="color:orange;">What I been doing</span>]]</sub>) 07:25, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
::::{{u|Zackmann08}}, feel free to work on it if you want.  the "fixChildBoxes" function is supposed to make the output tidy by making sure the td, th, and tr tags are properly matched, but that might not be working either right now.  the two ways I can see making this work are (a) have the generated empty rows styled with "display:none" or (b) detect when a child box is being passed without any content outside of the child box and insert that directly, without having it inside of a table cell.  the second option seems nicer since it doesn't have extra blank rows marked as "display:none".  [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 17:12, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Frietjes}} so this may be beyond my talents, but I'll take a stab at it tonight. '''[[User:Zackmann08|<span style="color:#00ced1">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94">mann</span>]]''' (<sup>[[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|<span style="color:orange;">What I been doing</span>]]</sub>) 17:20, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::Tried anything yet? [[User:Cosmo Skerry|Cosmo Skerry]] ([[User talk:Cosmo Skerry|talk]]) 22:22, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::I will confess I have not... I've been stuck on other projects. {{smiley|sad}} '''[[User:Zackmann08|<span style="color:#00ced1">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94">mann</span>]]''' (<sup>[[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|<span style="color:orange;">What I been doing</span>]]</sub>) 22:26, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

== image flip ==

Is there a way to flip images in an infobox? The image flip template does not seem to work with it. ←&nbsp;[[User:Metallurgist|Metallurgist]] ([[User talk:Metallurgist|talk]]) 00:49, 2 December 2025 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that there was a discussion on this some years ago, the overwhelming consensus being that image flipping (left to right) was not to be encouraged, because it could be seen as misleading; but I can't find it now. That said, our image policies and guidelines are spread about over many pages, and it's often difficult to find even simple things - like the policy on recommended sizes is not on the same page as the policy on captions. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 16:48, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

== Mystery image appearing at top of InfoBox ==

The article [[Nile]] in English Wikipedia has an infobox, and it displays the image [[commons:File:Cairo_skyline,_Panoramic_view,_Egypt.jpg]] at the top.  But that image is not mentioend anywhere in the page's markup.  Where is the image coming from?  And how would one remove it from that InfoBox? [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 02:51, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Noleander}} By default, [[Template:Infobox river]] pulls an image from Commons based upon the information at the appropriate Wikidata page, which for [[Nile]] is [[d:Q3392]], specifically the property [[d:Q3392#P18]]. The actual infobox code is <syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext>{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getValue|rank=best|P18 |name=image |qid={{{qid|}}} |suppressfields={{{suppressfields|}}} |fetchwikidata={{{fetchwikidata|ALL}}} |onlysourced=no |noicon=yes |maxvals=1 |{{{image|}}}}}</syntaxhighlight> which for [[Nile]] emits <samp>{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getValue|rank=best|P18 |name=image |qid=Q3392 |suppressfields= |fetchwikidata=ALL |onlysourced=no |noicon=yes |maxvals=1 }}</samp>. This may be overridden by filling in the article's infobox with a valid non-blank value for {{para|image}}, or suppressed entirely using {{para|suppressfields|image}}. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1F98C; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 11:00, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks; excellent information. [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 15:30, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
:Also replied at [[Template talk:Infobox river#How hide wikidata photo at top of the InfoBox?]]. Please avoid cross-posting &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 12:34, 5 January 2026 (UTC)